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 | Posted On: 07/31/2010 At: 11:19:44 AM |
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I had purchased two quail wings. I attached one to a fishing pole (like in the DVD) and taped the other to a new canvas dummy. Last night I introduced Gus to the fish pole wing. Within a few sweeps of the fishing pole Gus locked up solid. I quit and put it up.
This morning out in the big field. I got the fishing pole out again and after two sweeps he locked up. I put it up.
I had Rhonda (my wife) go down the field about 200 yards and lay the dummy (with quail wing taped to it) in some tall grass. It was attached to about 50 feet of cord on a reel. As Gus found it, locked up and than jumped it she started reeling him into her with the dummy in his mouth.
He stopped twice to chew at it but did pick it back up and carry it to her.
Gus has never been a top hand retriever with much of anything. He'd rather do keep away.
Question: can we use the dummy with the taped wing to get him more interested in retrieving? (at least we can reel it in to us)
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Sharon Potter
Derby
USA
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 Posted - 07/31/2010 : 8:02:24 PM
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| Put the wing away.....if he continues to point by sight, he'll not want to use his nose and stop on scent. |
Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver |
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jayv
Derby
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Posted - 08/02/2010 : 04:09:57 AM
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| Is it now time to introduce my pigeons to him in the field? |
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ldame
Derby
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Posted - 08/02/2010 : 08:41:21 AM
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Jay;
What is you plan as far as introducing the birds? A length of hose attached to the bird's leg so it can fly several yards? Planted birds in launchers? Planted birds able to fly away on their own? Are you pigeons "trained" to come back? That's the best. We need to know your plans for a session. Lots can go wrong when introducing birds that could make Gus 'bird shy." Not what we want.
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jayv
Derby
USA
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Posted - 08/02/2010 : 3:34:47 PM
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Heck I'm so gun shy of making another mistake. My pigeons are not trained; they are wild as a march hair.
I have the hose/hobbles/ and I have the wing harness. Plus I've got this deal going on two different topics; sorry about that. I ask all these questions above on the other one.
I think I should throw a pigeon in the air on the hose; but the question is when. Do we plant the pigeon first? Do we show it to Gus and have him just chase it? My fear is this lad will catch that darn pigeon before I can get to it.
Confused.
Thanks for the help; sorry to be such a bother. |
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Sharon Potter
Derby
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Posted - 08/02/2010 : 7:02:08 PM
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Jay, my pigeons are pretty wild, too...but once they know how to get back in their coop and that's where the food is, I can let 'em go and they'll come back home. It takes about two weeks of feeding them in their enclosure, and then taking them out in your hand and putting them back in via the "bobs" on the door so they know how to do it. Then let 'em out just before dark and then feed them. They'll want the feed and come back in. Then, when you use them for training your pup, you can let them fly and they'll "home".
Ideally, the pigeons should be loose so your pup can run and chase them. |
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baileyfarms
Derby
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Posted - 08/02/2010 : 9:58:56 PM
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| Jay this is a puppy you are talking about isn't it? Are you taking him for walks in fields and letting him run and learn how to cover different terrain ,hunt, chase tweety birds? I usally use the pigeons to teach them how to handle birds correctly. and not little puppys but larger pups and derbys. |
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jayv
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Posted - 08/03/2010 : 1:37:24 PM
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Nard
Yes I'm do open field work with Gus. Yes, he's still a pup; will be 16 weeks old Sunday.
Perhaps part of the confusion for me is I saw them get younger pups with a dead quail and a live pigeon on the DVD. they also demo bird work in the second DVD.
I guess I sort of needed a 1, 2,3 type chart to line up the correct training with the age and progress of the dog. I'm trying not to rush Gus. He's a very very bold pup. He's on the CG right now for the third time and he's been throwing a fit for about 2 hours. I keep him watered good and he's in full shade but it's still hot here. I'm watching him pretty close. He just won't stop fighting. |
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