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 | Posted On: 07/26/2010 At: 4:56:33 PM |
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In Delmar's DVD (Training Gun Dogs with Delmar Smith) he's wearing a couple of whistles around his neck but never once is any training involved using these whistles. Why the whistles or do I need to buy additional DVD's to find the answer?
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ldame
Derby
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 Posted - 07/27/2010 : 01:56:24 AM
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Once the dog is solid on his CL and CC cues you can add a whistle. One long blast to come in, two shorts to turn, etc. It's optional. I always mouth whistled to get the dogs attention when I left them in the truck while I shopped. Whistles are probably more important for retreivers that need to be handled from a distance.
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Steve Olson
Derby
USA
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Posted - 07/27/2010 : 09:23:12 AM
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| There is a place for whistles but that is naming a conditioned response. Just like when you teach whoa or fetch; you don't say the command (word or whistle) until the dog is doing the command. As Rick says, naming it is the last thing you will do. So for all practical purposes, you won't need them for some time. The only time I us them on young dogs is to give a single long blast to release the dogs from the kennel. This can then be used to release a dog at a distance later in training. |
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jayv
Derby
USA
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Posted - 07/28/2010 : 07:49:31 AM
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Following the silent method at best I use Gus's name; however, I am very versed with a mouth whistle (from trailing Border Collies for 10 years). In that world the whistle stops, pushes, quarters, etc the dog from quite a distance during work and than is used to retrieve the dog and also to sit the dog.
For Gus I call him to me with the Whistle; but that's it. During open field work when he has gotten out of sight with me I can call him back just to ensure I don't loose him in the wide open (I run him on 4100 acs of open ranch land.)
I taught him to come to that whistle because of feeding. Everytime I get ready to feed him I whistle him to me. In the field he doesn't expect to get feed but will come back willingly. IMHO
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Sharon Potter
Derby
USA
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Posted - 07/28/2010 : 2:10:50 PM
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| I wish I could make a mouth whistle work! I tried and tried....finally gave up and threw it away. What's the secret? |
Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver |
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Steve Olson
Derby
USA
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Posted - 07/28/2010 : 2:19:11 PM
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| What's a mouth whistle? I thought he was talking about putting your lips together and blowing |
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jayv
Derby
USA
66 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2010 : 03:44:00 AM
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A mouth whistle is a flat piece of metal (very thin) that fits between your lips and is controlled by the forward thrust of the tongue and the vol of air. Commonly used by stock dog people who must control dogs on sheep or cattle at a distance. With the whistle directions can be given to aid the dog in the control of a large herd. Granted the dog has a certain amount of natural instinct to gather the herd however moves like "pushing the herd," is against the natural instinct to gather and must be trained or directed. The whistle is the connection between the herdsman and the dog when distance becomes evident. I could go on and on but think it wise not to take up to much space.
One trick to learning the whistle is to sing along with Mexican music on the radio when your driving your truck down the road. Using only the whistle you will end up being a instrument that fits into the music. It teaches control, vol, and pitch.
My standard commands with different whistle sounds are: stop, step up, flank right, flank left, circle the top of the herd, drive up, hold, down, and return to my side. I can control a dog with the whistle at greater distances than the eye can see at times. Often moving sheep herds in fog you have to rely on the whistle because you may not see the dog.
Email me if you want a whistle and the CD that teaches how to use it. I think "bird dog folks," don't want the whistle used because it over rides the natural. I use it only to call Gus to my side.
info@medcalf.us
One last thing; don't confuse mouth whistle with police type whistles that require only a direct blow of air into the mouth pc.
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